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Das Niemals Richtig Errettet Argument unter die Lupe genommen

Dan Corner

Niemals Richtig Gerettet

Niemals Wirklich Gerettet (Niemals Gerettet) (mp3)

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Überhaupt Nie Richtig Gerettet (text)
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Ist Das Niemals Wirklich Gerettet (Niemals Gerettet) Argument Gültig und Konsistent?

I NEVER KNEW YOU

The never really saved response comes from eternal security proponents when their doctrine is being exposed as a license to sin. For a person to say that a professing Christian was never saved and always a false convert, if he turns away from God to sin, is fallacious in at least 7 different areas. If you are a Christian, carefully ponder the following so you can help others see the dangerous folly of the never saved declaration.

Niemals Wirklich Gerettet Argument Leugnet, Dass Wir Wissen Können Wer Gerettet Ist

For one to say a professing Christian who turns away from God to sin was never saved is also to deny that we can know who is saved and who is not by their present tense behavior. Such is clearly unscriptural:

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Daran sind die Kinder Gottes und die Kinder des Teufels offenbar. Ein Jeder, der nicht Gerechtigkeit thut, ist nicht aus Gott und wer seinen Bruder nicht liebet. (1. Johannes 3,10; Zürcher 1860)

Kinder, daß niemand euch verführe! Wer die Gerechtigkeit tut, ist gerecht, gleichwie er gerecht ist. Wer die Sünde tut, ist aus dem Teufel... (1Johannes 3,7-8, elb1905)

Und hieran wissen wir, daß wir ihn kennen, wenn wir seine Gebote halten. Wer da sagt: Ich kenne ihn, und hält seine Gebote nicht, ist ein Lügner, und in diesem ist die Wahrheit nicht. (1. Johannes 2,3-4; elb1905)

Die Bibel ist glasklar darüber, dass wie sie an ihren Früchen erkennen können (Mt. 7,16-17) und dass es wahrnehmbare Hinweise von Gottes rettender Gnade gibt:_

Es kam aber die Rede von ihnen zu den Ohren der Versammlung, die in Jerusalem war, und sie sandten Barnabas aus, daß er hindurchzöge bis nach Antiochien; welcher, als er hingekommen war und die Gnade Gottes sah, sich freute und alle ermahnte, mit Herzensentschluß bei dem Herrn zu verharren. (Apg 11,22-23; elb1905)

● To say a professing Christian who turns away from God to wickedness was never saved ist zu leugnen, dass andere jemals fähig gewesen wären, ihn als nicht-Christ zu identifizieren, bevor solches geschah.

Die Niemals Gerettet Antwort ist Inkonsistent

For one to say a professing Christian who turns away from God to sin was never saved is also to have an inconsistent message. If those same teachers were consistent they would have to say David, Solomon and Peter were never saved because they backslid. David turned to adultery and murder (2 Sam. 11); Solomon turned to idolatry (1 Kings 11:4-10) and Peter disowned Jesus three times (Mt. 26:33,34). Both David and Peter repented and returned to God but Solomon continued in wickedness. There is no evidence that Solomon ever returned to God.

● To say a professing Christian who turns away from God to wickedness was never saved is to exclude prominent Biblical characters who were truly saved before terribly falling to that degree. On this basis alone, the never saved argument is destroyed.

Der Niemals Wirklich Gerettet Glaube Leugnet, Dass Man Rückfällig Werden Kann

To say a professing Christian who turns away from God to wickedness was never saved is to imply that true Christians will not turn away to sin but continue to obey God. But that type of message is often opposed and scoffed at by the same teachers. In other words, those same teachers declare Christians constantly sin in thought, word and deed. They also wrongly use Romans 7:14-25 for support and to teach that Paul was like that and such is the normal Christian life! Imagine that! They teach like that then turn 180 degrees around and teach the same crowd if you turn away you were never saved—two completely opposite teachings, yet their audience seems oblivious to it.

● To say a professing Christian who turns away from God to wickedness was never saved is also to teach that a true Christian will always obey God and never backslide, which is denied by their misuse of Rom. 7:14-25.

Niemals Gerettet Glaube Ignoriert Viele Bibelstellen

To say a professing Christian who turns away from God to wickedness was never saved is to ignore at least 26 Scriptures in the NT. They show people who previously were disciples and followers of Christ later fell away, turned away, went back, etc. and not once in those 2 dozen plus passages do we read because they became a spiritual tragedy by backsliding, that was evidence which proves they were never saved. Scripture shows it can be somewhat common for followers of Christ to turn to wickedness; get deceived into believing a false gospel; etc.

● To say a professing Christian who turns away from God to wickedness was never saved is also to display ignorance of those 26 Scriptures (plus all the other relevant Scriptures) which teach the opposite. (See The Believer’s Conditional Security, p. 632 for a listing of those Scriptures.)

Impliziert, Dass Man Niemals Wissen Kann Wer Wirklich Gerettet Ist

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Zu sagen, dass ein bekennender Christ, der sich von Gott abwendet hinzu Bosheit niemals gerettet wäre, ist zu lehren, dass man niemals wissen könne, ob jemand ein christlicher Bruder oder Schwester sei, inklusive der Prediger selbst, der einem diese niemals wirklich gerettet Absurdität lehrte. Möglicherweise ist er auch nur ein falscher Bekehrter.

Their doctrine would have us believe another’s salvation can’t be known as long as one remains alive, because as long as they remain alive they might apostatize and thereby prove they were never saved. If you can’t tell if another is a Christian then you can’t consider someone to be a spiritual leader or a possible spouse to marry, since both require true Christians.

● To say a professing Christian who turns away from God to wickedness was never saved is also to teach that no Christian can ever know another to be a possible spiritual leader or spouse for marriage.

Das Niemals Gerettet Argument Missbraucht Bibelstellen

Zu sagen, dass ein bekennender Christ, der sich von Gott abwendet hinzu Bosheit niemals gerettet wäre, wird nur unterstützt durch zwei Bibelstellen, welche beide missbraucht sind.

"Ich Habe Euch Nie Gekannt" (Mt. 7,23)

The first is Mt. 7:23 where Jesus tells continuous tense evildoers that he never knew them.

Not everyone who says to me, “Lord, Lord,” will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, “Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?” Then I will tell them plainly, “I NEVER KNEW YOU. Away from me, you evildoers!” (Mat 7:21-23)

The context shows the religious ones referred to there were never saved but were continuous tense evildoers. Those religious-but-continuous evildoers never had evidence of saving grace, that is, a freedom from sin addictions which occurs when one contacts the blood of Jesus at true conversion (Rom. 6:22; John 8:34-36; Rev. 1:5; etc.), but that doesn’t mean others who had a true conversion can’t shrink back, as the Bible shows has happened.

Furthermore, the never saved proponents focus in on the one and only passage which has the words never saved (or its equivalent), but conveniently overlook three passages which show others were also not known by the Lord Jesus, but not told they were never saved:

Er aber antwortete und sprach: Wahrlich, ich sage euch, ich kenne euch nicht. (Mt 25,12; elb1905)

Once the owner of the house gets up and closes the door, you will stand outside knocking and pleading, “Sir, open the door for us.” But he will answer, “I don’t know you or where you come from.” (Luke 13:25)

But he will reply, “I don’t know you or where you come from. Away from me, all you evildoers!” (Luke 13:27)

Jesus didn’t tell them, I never knew you, like in Mt. 7:23, but instead I don’t know you. That implies they were once known (saved), but later lost their salvation. This is especially clear with the 10 Virgins teaching (Mt. 25:1-13).

1. Johannes 2,19

The second Scripture misused by the never saved OSAS crowd for support is 1 John 2:19, which refers to people who did not believe Jesus was the Christ, as shown in 1 John 2:22:

Wer ist der Lügner, wenn nicht der, welcher leugnet, dass Jesus der Christus ist? Das ist der Antichrist, der den Vater und den Sohn leugnet! (1Johannes 2,22; Schlachter 1905)

Their doctrine clearly excluded them from being a Christian. They too had no evidence of saving grace since they denied Jesus was the Christ.

● To say a professing Christian who turns away from God to wickedness was never saved is also to rely chiefly upon two Scriptures, both of which are misused and misapplied. Hence, there is no solid Biblical support for it. The people referred to in each never had evidence of saving faith because they were either continuous tense evildoers or doctrinally denied Jesus was the Christ.

Der Versuch, Eine Lizenz Zum Sünden Zu Verbergen

To say a professing Christian who turns away from God to wickedness was never saved is also cited as an argument to conceal the license for immorality that the once saved always saved doctrine declares itself to be. When their doctrine gets exposed as the security in sin gospel or they notice gross immorality among those they have been preaching to, they then tend to mention their contradicting, inconsistent, double message with no Scriptural support—the never saved absurd argument.

With some people, it has actually succeeded in confusing the issue enough to conceal the glaring wickedness and salvation security in sin being taught through eternal security at other times.

● People who cite the never saved argument are either grossly ignorant of hundreds of Scriptures which counter the never saved doctrine or are intentionally hiding those related-but- contradictory-truths to preserve their own doctrine, which began with the devil himself in Gen. 3:4.

Es gibt mehr als 100 einschlägige Bibelstellen, welche das niemals gerettet Argument widerlegen. Sie haben nur 2 Verse, welche beide missbraucht und falsch angewandt sind. Whichwirst du glauben?

Noch ein Punkt: Calvinist John MacArthur ist einer der führenden Befürworter (zusammen mit Ray Comfort) von diesem absurden unbiblischen niemals gerettet (oder falscher Bekehrter) Argument. Dennoch lehrt MacArthur manchmal ganz deutlich, dass es christliche Ehebrecher, christliche Säufer, christliche Diebe, christliche Lügner, christliche Mörder, etc. gibt

Please consider getting our 801 page book refuting eternal security entitled, The Believer’s Conditional Security. There is MUCH in it that can help you better understand this salvation related subject. NO Eternal Security Book

The Believer’s Conditional Security is the most exhaustive and comprehensive refutation to eternal security ever written. [Remember the never really saved (never saved) argument is not solidly based on Scripture, neither is it consistent!]

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